By dfwtravler (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #191) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 4:16 pm: |
Hello, I want to provide a quick summary on our recent stay. We have visited Bonaire several times, and like all of you, we enjoying diving in Bonaire and have brought many new divers to the island with us through the years. We have been blessed and feel very fortunate to have made many close friends on island through out the years. We are aware of the crime problems associated with this caribbean islands just like others we have visited. We have taken these issue into consideration when arranging our accommodations. Over the years we have had items such as hats, t-shirts and shorts stolen. These items were in the vehicle and taken during our time in the water diving. No big deal chalk it up as “Don’t leave in truck what you don’t want taken” This last experience in April was very MUCH different.
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By JD (BonaireTalker - Post #81) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 4:56 pm: |
Is this the same house as this incident in March? (http://www.oldbonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/24/425386.html?1268436426)
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By Jeanine wants a tribble. (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #9735) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 4:58 pm: |
Thank you for sharing your experience. I am very saddened that you had to go through this.
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By KIV ~ Kobi in Virginia (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #14213) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 5:08 pm: |
DFW, I am terribly sorry about what happened. Reading your report made my stomach turn. I know we hear about this more often now than ever but this time it hits me harder as I feel like we know you!!!!
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By Lloyd Haskell (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #538) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 6:55 pm: |
Sad story . Thanks for sharing , definitely a wake up call .
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By LaDonna * (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3780) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 6:56 pm: |
OMG!!! This turns my stomach as well.....it f*****g S***s....and I am so sad you had to go through this!!!
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By J. (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26147) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 7:22 pm: |
I'm so sorry to read this Randall.
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By Bill LaBarge (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #228) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 7:26 pm: |
I am going to mention this to my sister, her house was broken into the day after, wireless was installed... coincidence...????? This is nonsense.... and as a person who has stayed and having been reliant on SB, I am NOT a fan...
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By Sailor (BonaireTalker - Post #11) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 7:37 pm: |
I, too, am so sorry for this crime against you and your fellow travelers. We were also robbed during our stay in March (while we were in our unit sleeping) and know firsthand the terror of finding such violation.
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By Gail T.*********** (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #4750) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 8:12 pm: |
I am also so sorry this happened to you. As an experienced Bonaire Talker, I'm sure you read all the reports and knew how to protect yourselves. We have had 10 trips to the island, always staying in the same small Inn. We've always felt safe leaving personal items in our room while gone, but our group has pretty much always taken up all 10 rooms so someone was mostly there at all times. With so much news on the increase of crime, we opted out of our this years trip with our group, and are just going to wait another year and see how things go.
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By Lloyd Haskell (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #539) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 8:31 pm: |
I am leaning towards Fiji for my next dive vacation . Partly because of this ongoing crime , partly the cost of flying to Bonaire has caught up with going to the south pacific .
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By Barbara "CB" Gibson (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #4999) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 9:41 pm: |
Aw, that sucks. I'd been enjoying you pics from the holiday so much....what a shame have it end that way. Thanks for the very thorough report. All my best...
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By J. (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26153) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 9:41 pm: |
Get a lockbox at a bank for your pass port, cash, return tickets.
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By J. (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26154) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 9:47 pm: |
I also bring a chefs knife with me. It's so sharp they would bleed out before the knew they where cut.
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By J. (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26155) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 9:51 pm: |
My first night on Bonaire some 20 plus years ago, the house next to us got hit. Not a new problem. Just better advertised.
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By lisa z (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #413) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 10:01 pm: |
After reading about your horrible experience and the lack of assistance and help from Sunbelt Realty, I think that BT'ers should band together and boycott Sunbelt. There are many voices out there on BT. Letters should be written to Sunbelt letting them know that their services will not be utilized by any BT member. I firmly believe that if people band together and hit businesses in their wallets, things might change. Just my opinion.
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By Trevor Naylor (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #207) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 11:11 pm: |
I am a little confused. What do the pics relate to. Obviously not the original burglary as there was no forced entry, but the pics show a forced door. Also there is a camera on the bed. I thought the cameras were stolen. Please forgive me if I have misread the situation.
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By Trevor Naylor (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #208) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 11:17 pm: |
As an impartial observer it would appear that Sunbelt Realty appear have a few questions to answer.
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By KIV ~ Kobi in Virginia (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #14215) on Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 11:22 pm: |
Not sure about the camera in the pic but DFW stated the doors were kicked from the inside of the house; the burglars method of exit?
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2950) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 6:58 am: |
Randall & Tonia..So sorry to hear about this and read about your ordeal. Was enjoying reading your trip reports. It seemed like the both of you were having so much fun.
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By dfwtravler (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #192) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 8:56 am: |
Thank you for your support as to our situation. As far as the photos taken, thank goodness we had our HD-VideoCamera with us this evening at dinner, and It takes still pictures as well.
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By *Linda* - Relay for Life in May (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #7789) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 9:19 am: |
Randall & Tonia, I am so sorry to hear this!
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By Susan Ryan (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 9:41 am: |
Very sorry to hear about the break-in and all the hassle you had to go through at the airport. I have a little house in Belnem and was there for six week during the last part of March and most of April. During my first week I was also robbed and had a considerable amount of cash taken as well as my blackberry and the keys to the house. (I had not locked the house (duh me) and the keys were sitting on the counter). The laptops were locked in a small cabinet along with our passports. I truly believe that if the thieves had not found the cash they would have continued their search for the laptops because I had internet installed the day before the robbery occurred. And yes, I think there was a connection. After the incident I was made aware that many robberies have been happening throughout the neighborhood, some of which took place while people were in other areas of the house.
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By Eric M. "CamMan" (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #956) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 10:50 am: |
Wasn't there recently a thread regarding Sunbelt talking about how bad they were and the horrible service they {didn't} provide.
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By Eric M. "CamMan" (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #957) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 10:55 am: |
Yep, here it is.
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2951) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 11:42 am: |
[Looking at that door and the fact that certain items that belong to Sunbelt were left alone,]
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By Eric M. "CamMan" (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #960) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 11:46 am: |
That was what DFW said in his report.
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By KIV ~ Kobi in Virginia (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #14216) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 12:14 pm: |
I agree with Vince. The items IN the house would be the property of the HOME OWNER not Sunbelt Realty. Sunbelt is a rental facility and the owners have contracted with them to handle rental affairs on their behalf.
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By Lizard0924 (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #419) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 12:21 pm: |
I'm so sorry that your trip ended this way. What a horrible sense of violation, and then to have Sunbelt's action added to that....beyond words.
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By Eric M. "CamMan" (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #964) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 12:32 pm: |
Ok, not "Sunbelt's Property" but items that belong to the specific property. Poorly worded I guess. But still the same intent. Items that were related to the property in question were not touched. Couple that with the door being kicked the wrong way and other historical issues with SR and I think there's a pattern here.
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By Debbie B.~ Jersey Gal(*) (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #12031) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 12:51 pm: |
Randall & Tonia, I am so very sorry to read this.
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By elaine sculley (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1421) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 1:33 pm: |
randall and tonia so sorry. makes my blood boil
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2952) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 1:51 pm: |
Well I'm going to try & put this into perspective. And I am NOT referring to the terrible burglary experienced by the O.P. Several issues to specifically address:
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By dfwtravler (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #193) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 1:53 pm: |
Susan R welcome to bonaire talk. We are also sorry to hear of your misfortunes and hope the bars do there job.
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By Lizard0924 (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #420) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 2:21 pm: |
Vince, I'll have to respectfully disagree with you re: Sunbelt if what the OP quoted is true:
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By dfwtravler (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #194) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 3:49 pm: |
Lizard0924
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2955) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 4:00 pm: |
Liz..Well maybe someday we'll meet on the island & continue this discussion over a couple of cold ones while waiting for the sun to set! I'm sure we'd find much more we are in agreement of on this incident than disagreement.
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By Bill LaBarge (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #231) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 4:47 pm: |
Just to add quickly to this.... If I had had the forethought to inform my new neighbors, I might have helped them prevent a home invasion.... we are the visitors and lovers of Bonaire must help each other by letting folks know that there is a problem.... when a problem is finally acknowledged it can be dealt with.... I highly support the Belnam Blog.....
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By J. (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26172) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 4:55 pm: |
Bill, would you be so kind and email me the address of the blog?
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By Lizard0924 (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #421) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 5:44 pm: |
Yes, Vince, we keep trying to get to Bon in February rather than January. Should we ever accomplish that feat, we will definitely share a cold one with you!
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By Bill LaBarge (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #233) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 6:28 pm: |
www.belnem-watchdogs.com
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By Freddie~~~~~~ Spring has Sprung ) (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #14261) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 6:36 pm: |
bill that seems to be an open portal do you really want that on here?? or am I just logged in??
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By Freddie~~~~~~ Spring has Sprung ) (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #14262) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 6:45 pm: |
go to this thread to get the address if that one doesn't work
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By Ron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #165) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 7:05 pm: |
This sort of information is very useful when trying to get a rental for your vacation. Vince we met you and your wife at the no name dive. (The Rock). What this information did for us was make us call our Travel Insurance company and ask specfic questions. The volcano also helped us ask specific questions.
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2956) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 7:58 pm: |
[You mentioned talking to the owner.]
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By Ron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #167) on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 10:08 pm: |
I am not saying I agree or disagree with their laws. I simply do not know what they are other than you can not bring a gun. As far as laws here I concur but not much can be done about that either.
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By Antony Bond (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #662) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 4:33 am: |
My two cents.....
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By Patti and Jim (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #7) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 9:35 am: |
Wow. Sorry this happened to you during your stay.
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By Rick C (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #8) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:21 am: |
Vince, of course your opposing the problem, that is there was a burglary that looks fishy at best and when the renters turn for help or ask a question, whether it be the responsibility of the realty agency or the owner to fix, they get a response along the lines of oh well. First it is sunbelts job to advocate for you as the renter if there is a problem with the house not slough it off. Its not the renters job to chase after the owner of a house. Second Id be curious who the owner of the house is because I had a similar experience with sunbelt as you have read and it turns out that the owners of the house and sunbelt are all related in some way.
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By Chris (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #215) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 12:15 pm: |
Antony, great suggestion. The owner/agents of these properties can always report their actions in response to the crime, informing us of any improvements to the property . On a slow day at work in March, I dissected the BT threads over the last 4 months and identified 13 individual properties broken into, all mentioned by name. It would be so much easier to have this organized in one thread. At least people in the property hit 3x within a few months would have not had the surprise effect and rude awakening.
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2959) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 12:27 pm: |
[Vince, of course your opposing the problem,]
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By Jerry (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26200) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 1:12 pm: |
It's almost funny how we get to the 50's and things start going down hill.
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By Jerry (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26201) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 1:15 pm: |
Chris, if you can, send me the links.
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By Eric C (BonaireTalker - Post #15) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 2:31 pm: |
I think it's spelled ad hominem
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2962) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 3:33 pm: |
[I think it's spelled ad hominem]
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By Dave Goodwin * (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #595) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 5:19 pm: |
jerry,
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By Rick C (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #9) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 5:28 pm: |
Vince (you just proved my point) your so defensive so quick, and not only on attacks on you. You did so here and on my personal post following a robbery and a poorly handled situation by sunbelt, and I've followed you on scuba boards of the same topics. Seems like you only see fault in the victims of robbery and not the other way around. Thats all I simply said!
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By Jerry (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26207) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 5:52 pm: |
Dave it's the number of posts....but I know it was a joke. I wish I was 50 again
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By JD (BonaireTalker - Post #82) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 7:31 pm: |
dfwtraveler:
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By Ron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #170) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 7:33 pm: |
Went from robbery to a spelling lesson to a cat fight. I love all the diversity the island has to offer.
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By Bill LaBarge (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #234) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 7:57 pm: |
Just a note to all.... this is a lot bigger than any of us. If we fall away from the purpose, we will all lose.... stay in the game.
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By Jerry (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26208) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 8:39 pm: |
Well put Bill, thanks.
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By P (BonaireTalker - Post #13) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 9:39 pm: |
I’m so sorry for you both. I’m sure if you love Bonaire as much as I do it’s like having your best friend betray you. As terrible as this is for the victims, this is a horrific problem for Bonaire. If it is allowed to continue it will escalate and ultimately lead to some form of violence. We come to Bonaire to enjoy ourselves. Personally, as much as my heart will always be in Bonaire, I'm giving serious consideration to protesting with my wallet on my next vacation. I'm tired of worrying about my stuff being stolen out of my car or my rental unit being broken into, or my gas getting siphoned or whatever else may be in store for me next. Please put the word out to the authorities that this is quietly and anonymously "killing the goose that lays the golden egg". The islanders have been given a gift. They should be policing each other instead of preying on the golden goose-
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By ***Ken *** (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #769) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:22 pm: |
P Amen
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By Eric C (BonaireTalker - Post #16) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:27 pm: |
The lesson was in humility not spelling.
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By brenda (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #458) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:35 pm: |
So, I have a question. Are these breakins happening at rentals, owned house/condo rentals, with off island owners and property managed, or are they happening at the "resorts" as well. We have been traveling to Bon since "98, and have never had an issue (gonna go knock heavy on wood), even with shore diving. We've always stayed at a resort. We haven't experienced any of the ever growing theft issues plaguing Bon.....I'm not doubting them, just trying to understand the targets of choice.
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By Lloyd Haskell (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #542) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:46 pm: |
P ... well said . No doubt just a small portion of Bonaire visitors actually read these threads . There will always be unsuspecting targets for the perpetrators to exploit .
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By Beck-ee going to an island way up north (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2598) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 11:41 pm: |
DFW - I am horrified by your experience. Unfortunately, I think it may keep me from going back to Bonaire at this point. Don't get me wrong, I love this little Island and all it offers, but when the victim gets the blame and nothing is really done by the police, I'm not sure my hard earned "disposable income" needs to be spent there anymore.
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By Chris (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #216) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 11:50 pm: |
Brenda, private homes, condos and resorts. Some have security measures in place now. When you book, ask specifically what they are doing for your personal safety. If they don't disclose anything, I wouldn't stay there. Safes alone are not important, sounds like a lot of them get removed from the units easily.
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By Rick C (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #10) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 12:06 am: |
I've been in Bonaire for 9 months now. In that short time and in my close nit group of friends here we have had 3 houses broken into including my own, 5 batteries stolen out of vehicles, 3 vehicles that had the gas hoses cut and siphoned, and last saturday while on a shore dive on the south had my glove box pried open and had my wallet, phone, and sunglasses stolen (yes not a good idea to keep my wallet there, but still!). They couldn't even just take the cash (which is the only thing they want) and leave the wallet they had to take it all and then I'm sure throw it out and cause the greatest amount of difficulty in now replacing those items when Im from Canada and living here.
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By Bill LaBarge (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #235) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 7:31 am: |
I talked with one of the people I've know on island for 38 yrs. He is a dive guide and boat captain for one of the major hotels... will not tell his name, I don't have permission. His house was broken into with a big pry bar, they brought bolt cutters to deal with major wires..... they cut his system connected to batteries that where 50 kilos.. couldn't lift them easily so left them... took copper pipes... this group is selling copper to someone on island or selling off island.... someone has got to be aware of this BUSINESS... you can't do this on a small island and not have someone be aware.... People need to step up and protect their island.... and we need to support that kind of bravery.....
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By Kevin OBrien (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #6) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 7:31 am: |
For those of you who live full-time or long stretches on the island, do you have a sense for the impact (good or bad) that the transition to the Dutch government coming in October might have on the crime/breakin situation?
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By Chris (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #217) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 12:46 pm: |
dfwtravler, I just noticed you are mentioning an old thread about the 2007 burglaries at a resort in Hato... I have stayed there in 2008 and 2009 and can say that the resort is definitely on top of their security now. In fact, it was not included in the last crime wave over the last 6 months.( I am not an island property owner) I sincerely hope the other property owners hit lately will follow in the .....footsteps and change their security measures.
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By JD (BonaireTalker - Post #83) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 1:27 pm: |
"In fact, it was not included in the last crime wave over the last 6 months.(I am not an island property owner)"
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By Chris (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #218) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 1:37 pm: |
JD, there is nothing top secret. You can find the names on this board in different threads: Trip Reports,Everything Else, Local Items. When I booked this years trip I asked the properties I was interested in directly about break ins. Got honest answers, what happened/ or not, what was done to keep this from happening again. All vacation rental places have e-mail links, just ask them directly. Nobody on the island is trying to hide the current concerns we have as visitors. The medical student population is feeling victimized right now (I got back Sunday).
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By JD (BonaireTalker - Post #84) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 5:13 pm: |
Okay, thanks. I would typically look here or scubaboard and in those two places, names are usually not mentioned, specifically to avoid causing them any loss of business, but perhaps one can directly ask potential properties. Maybe there are other threads I haven't seen that discuss this as well.
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By Chris (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #219) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 5:40 pm: |
http://www.oldbonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/1022/423541.html?1265853739
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By Susan Ryan (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #2) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 11:06 pm: |
I am very new Bt and I only hooked up because Bill LaBarge (my brother) told me I should, due to all the recent robberies that have taken place. in Belnem and because I was also robbed during my last stay in my own house (due to my own negligence of not licking my door), even after I had been warned that burglaries had been taken place on a regular basis. Over the last fifteen years owning my house I have to say that this was the first robbery in my home. However due to the rash of break-ins, I did have installed inside bars on my windows and doors due to the fact that most people (both residents and visitors) in my neighborhood have experienced break-ins.
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By Lloyd Haskell (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #543) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 1:59 pm: |
It is becoming more of diver imprisoned than diver freedom
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By Trevor Naylor (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #210) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 2:14 pm: |
This appears to be getting a bit out of hand. Yes there is crime on Bonaire, but tell me a place where there isn't. I have just returned to Spain after six and half weeks in Bonaire and had a wonderful time. I did not have the property broken into nor anything stolen from my truck. I did not live in a fortress but I took sensible precautions.
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By Lizard0924 (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #424) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 2:51 pm: |
Since when is being legitimately concerned about the unabated crime (in particular, home invasions) the equivalent of panic? It is hardly panic to elect to vacation in Fiji (or anywhere else for that matter) rather than return to the roulette wheel of theft vs. safety that Bonaire seems to have become. (I say this having made four trips without even having so much as a pair of shorts taken from the truck while diving. Lucky me, I guess.)
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By Grunt (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1079) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 4:01 pm: |
One more to add to the list.
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By JD (BonaireTalker - Post #85) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 5:03 pm: |
"Yes there is crime on Bonaire, but tell me a place where there isn't."
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By Corine van der Hout (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 6:06 pm: |
One and a half week after the break in at the Esmeralda home and all the postings on Bonaire Talk, I would like to share with you Sunbelt Realty’s side of the situation and react on the first posting of Tonia.
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By Trevor Naylor (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #211) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 6:58 pm: |
Hi Corine Thank you for that detailed explanation. I agree that there is always another side to a story. Your side is very interesting and, if I might say so without too many attacks, makes sense to me. As you will have seen from some of the posts above I have been taken to task about some of the statements I have made. I just try to be objective and state how I see things. Unfortunately some people analize every word and take you to task on it to suit their own agenda. This is not being critical about anybody, every body has their own opinion. I suppose my advise to anybody is that if you have any concerns about where you are going to spend your well earned income on a vacation go somewhere where you don't have those concerns.
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By Lloyd Haskell (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #544) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 7:03 pm: |
Welcome to BT Corine and thanks for your post . You are between a rock and a hard place , I appreciate your side of the story .
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By Freddie {Moderator} (Moderator - Post #936) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 7:30 pm: |
Hi Corine, Welcome to Bonaire Talk
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By Ron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #171) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 8:15 pm: |
Thanks Corine we feel better after you explained your side of the story. If we keep my stuff somewhat secure and we will have another enjoyable trip. The optional clothing would have been interesting depending..... only kidding.
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By Ron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #172) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 8:16 pm: |
Thanks Corine we feel better after you explained your side of the story. If we keep our stuff somewhat secure and we will have another enjoyable trip. The optional clothing would have been interesting depending..... only kidding.
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By Bob Smits (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #859) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 2:28 am: |
Hi Corine,
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By Antony Bond (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #663) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 4:41 am: |
As I have said on other threads, I have always had nothing but admiration for the way that Sunbelt conduct their business.
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2969) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 6:05 am: |
Well said Antony...
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By Bill LaBarge (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #236) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 7:10 am: |
Let's all remember what the goal of this discussion and the one on Local Items.... the goal is to spread information that we know is true and to encourage action that will stop what could be a major issue for Bonaire. We need folks to step up and if they know where items are being fenced to allow that information to be known.... as they say on TV.... follow the money.... as Anthony says this is a small island... someone knows where this stuff is going.... let's find the trail and shut it down...
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By Lizard0924 (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #426) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 9:37 am: |
I, too, am glad to hear both sides of the story. As I mentioned to someone on this thread who contacted me privately, there are always two sides to a story and the truth lies somewhere in between. None of us know what actually went down between these two parties, and will never know since we weren't there.
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By Glen Reem (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3213) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 2:30 pm: |
I have been wondering about the 2 Smilies in the title line of this thread. Seems strange with the nasty complaint about a burglary et al.
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By Freddie~~~~~~ Spring has Sprung ) (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #14289) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 2:45 pm: |
Glen Glen Glen. we are experiencing some problems with the "bad"word software. that is why the dots are coming out.
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By Freddie~~~~~~ Spring has Sprung ) (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #14290) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 2:50 pm: |
Hopefully it is better now.................test, thank you Martin
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By Glen Reem (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3214) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 2:53 pm: |
TKS, Freddie. As I was composing another sample the effect disappeared.
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By Barbara "CB" Gibson (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #5033) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 3:04 pm: |
Martin gave us red balls???? Martin!!!
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By Martin de Weger - www.onderwaterfoto.org (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #5073) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 3:07 pm: |
I preferred it better this way then the other way around...
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By Barbara "CB" Gibson (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #5034) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 3:10 pm: |
Nyuck, nyuck...hi Martin!
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By SCUBAchef (BonaireTalker - Post #100) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 3:18 pm: |
Corine: "One of our staff members came to the home Friday afternoon 2 days before the 3-month renters would leave, to check the home and alarm. Because they had the home completely open we could not check the alarm and the current renters did not know if the alarm was working"
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2970) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 4:27 pm: |
Scubachef..I'd be glad to give you reports on Sunbelt since I've been using them for the last several years. Just PM me.
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By lisa z (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #414) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 4:47 pm: |
Again, I will state that it sounds like Sunbelt Realty turned it's back and closed their eyes to this renter and the events that transpired. BOYCOTT Sunbelt Realty!!!!!!
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By SCUBAchef (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #101) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 6:47 pm: |
Yes, Vince's property Vinibu
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By JD (BonaireTalker - Post #86) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 8:34 pm: |
"I suspect most of you know SB is being dragged into an expensive libel lawsuit...The Freedom of speech defense really goes just so far and then it ends up in litigation for a court to decide and assess monetary damages.
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By Jerry (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26292) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 11:07 pm: |
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By Glen Reem (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3215) on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 11:24 pm: |
Hey, mods, lead!! :–)
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By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #2972) on Saturday, May 1, 2010 - 4:31 am: |
Jerry..My vote is to put this thread to rest.
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By Freddie~~~~~~ Spring has Sprung ) (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #14291) on Saturday, May 1, 2010 - 5:10 am: |
I agree Jerry enough is enough,,,,,,
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By Bill LaBarge (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #237) on Saturday, May 1, 2010 - 8:22 am: |
I think the purpose of this thread was to share information and to give folks a heads up.... I suggest that there is a periodic warning to practice safe renting/owning.... let's remember what the goal was.... I don't know why these things have to go personal...
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By Ron (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #173) on Saturday, May 1, 2010 - 9:52 am: |
Both sides have stated their positions. I did not fall off of the watermelon wagon yesterday. It seems Sunbelt attempted to work with the renters. It seems the renters were not happy with something. Other than that, I don't have a clue and neither does anyone else other than the two parties involved. It is time to get back to talking about diving and looking at pictures.
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By Jerry (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #26296) on Saturday, May 1, 2010 - 11:30 am: |
I agree.
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By Freddie {Moderator} (Moderator - Post #937) on Thursday, May 6, 2010 - 2:29 pm: |
Randal's post is being reinstated to hopefully clear the air about some of the things that had happened, and to add closure. THIS THREAD WILL REMAIN CLOSED.
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By Freddie {Moderator} (Moderator - Post #938) on Thursday, May 6, 2010 - 3:36 pm: |
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