|By Burt F. Witlin (BonaireTalker - Post #23) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 12:54 pm:|
I went to Bonaire for 2 weeks and decided to take a boat dive to Klein Bonaire to see what it was like off the small island. The dive instructions were "We're going to get into the water and head that way, up current, till we reach half pressure. Then we will turn around and return to the boat. Nothing about buddying up, what to do in an emergency situation, what depth to maintain - just, we swim out and swim back (not real happy with the dive operation).
|By elaine sculley (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1928) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 1:00 pm:|
u should have said something to the manager when getting off boat. that is a serious problem.
|By Thom Wright (BonaireTalker - Post #72) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 1:37 pm:|
I gave up the Bonaire boat diving several years back and went strictly shore diving. I enjoy it much more. The group thing certainly detracts from the dive.
|By Lloyd H (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #641) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 1:55 pm:|
You are preaching to the choir .
|By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3426) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 3:44 pm:|
Well Bert that is one of the reasons many of us eschew boat diving on Bonaire. But embrace what Bonaire has; you can basically dive by yourself if you so chose anywhere & anytime. That to me makes it all worthwhile.
|By KOB (LBR32) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #429) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 4:51 pm:|
While I agree with Burt and generally try to stay as far away from large groups of divers as posssible when I am on Bonaire, Vince's comments are spot on. We were all new divers with crappy air consumption and even worse buoyancy control at one time. For me it was 1972. New divers gotta become experienced divers somewhere :->
|By Barbara "CB" Gibson (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #6228) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 6:14 pm:|
I'm with KOB. If a group of divers heads right, I go left, and I prefer shore diving at my own speed and schedule to answering to someone with a clipboard(Problem with authority? Me? Really????).
|By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3427) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 6:55 pm:|
Ahem..And I'd venture to guess the idiots are the ones in front of you & going too slow. The maniacs are the speed demons who are passing you by.
|By Barbara "CB" Gibson (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #6230) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 10:25 pm:|
|By Grunt (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1224) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 10:29 pm:|
My idea of the perfect boat dive has me in the water last.
|By brenda (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1225) on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 - 10:48 pm:|
I've been giant stride-d on, have been crashed on (my back) by uncontrolled descent diver, been crashed from underneath by uncontrolled ascent diver, had weight pockets whiz past my head from above, knocked off the ladder by freaked diver scrambling to get on the boat, been kicked about the head, and once my fin was pulled off by a panicked diver. Why? Because I love boat diving, (live-aboards) and off Klein!
|By KOB (LBR32) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #433) on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 - 9:33 am:|
Back when you could night dive Town Pier, I was about 18" off the bottom watching this little nudi. Some diver from a group passing by must have thought I was on to something, so down he came. Uncontrolled, crashing right into me and driving my face into the mud (and probably the nudi).
|By bob fraser (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #209) on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 - 10:25 am:|
can't resist, this is also why i love bonaire and tend to NOT do boat dives. Although there are lot of good divers who use camera's it a red flag when i see one. few boats dives I have done the people with the camera are ones to be avoided at all costs :-0 I am generalizing but its been my experience.
|By brenda (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1226) on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 - 11:38 am:|
Oh, Town Pier....on my 1 and only dive there I found a seahorse, thought it was proper to show the dm (Sunset Beach days), who, of course, called the herd over. That was the end of the seahorse, met his demise when outta control, excited divers crashed him, and a 5' radius of the area.
|By Mike Hennig (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #4) on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 - 2:22 pm:|
I just got back a few weeks ago and was also on a boat dive, some "professional" jackass with a huge camera was all over the place, actually laying on the coral and putting his camera setup wherever he felt like, constantly adjusting his strobes that were always resting on the live coral. No fault of the boat dive crew who was excellent. This photographer was just an idiot with not a concern in his mind other than his precious photo.
|By Bruce (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #432) on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 - 3:06 pm:|
I have to chime in and say that ninety plus percent of the "photographers" I see need to stop taking a camera underwater.
|By Lizard0924 (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #475) on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 - 3:35 pm:|
Maybe STINAPA could ban cameras, like it bans gloves? Just a thought. just kidding...don't get riled up photogs on BT.
|By Edward (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #176) on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 - 8:42 pm:|
I was shoved out of the way by a diver with camera several times on one boat dive. (And yes, I said something when we got back in the boat, and received a blank stare in return.) Too often I see divers with cameras using the one finger approach. (Steady themselves with one finger on live coral, as if they are minimizing the damage.) I have also seen divers with cameras hover a foot away from coral without touching anything. I tried taking pictures once with a disposable, and found that while I think I have good buoyancy control, my buoyancy really stinks while I am looking through a view finder.
|By Grunt (Extraordinary BonaireTalker - Post #1225) on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 - 9:06 pm:|
I'm one of those "camera divers" and I think peak buoyancy should be a requirement of any diver before he/she is allowed into the water with said camera.
|By Kevin McCarthy (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #1) on Friday, February 4, 2011 - 3:29 pm:|
So, I've been coming to Bonaire since 1990 and am amazed at what I am reading here. My experiences boat diving have been 90% just the opposite of what I have read here. Really, in reading this one would think the only people who dive in Bonaire are inconsiderate novices who just got certified and that the operators are mostly oblivious to the people they serve.
|By Vince DePietro-www.bonairebeachcondo.com (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3434) on Friday, February 4, 2011 - 6:39 pm:|
Kevin..Welcome to BT..I DO suspect some of this stuff is "tongue in cheek". It's human nature to remember the incidents which are negative. We've all had dumb things happen to us on dive boats, but I can say the vast majority of my experiences were indeed positive. Some folks just post as a method of venting.
|By Jim Gallagher (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #10) on Monday, February 7, 2011 - 3:27 pm:|
Vince may be right. A journalism saying is, "it is not news when a dog bites a man. When the man bites the dog - that's News!" We do focus on the exceptions. I am not all that experienced a diver. I have an advance OW certification and I am working on Nitrox, but I have less than 50 dives under my weight belt. I am going to Bonaire for my first time in 4 weeks and 5 days -- not that I'm counting or anything. I have encountered a few incidents that I would call brushes with me. I have encountered a few people who have collided with the marine life. I probably have been the offender a few times when I started out. I have never seen the abusive behavior noted here.
|By gotta dive (BonaireTalker - Post #32) on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 7:36 pm:|
Please don't lump all photographers together. I find diving with a camera more interesting and I will hang off the back to do "my thing". I have been going to Bonaire every summer for 10 years and I always dive with the same shop and I like boat dives. The Resort DM's know me very well and will intentionally look for me when the find something interesting or their boat is headed to a new location. I too have been swum over and kicked, watched obnoxious photographers with huge cameras damage the coral, lay on it, kick it, wedge their fins in it, etc. and yes it make me mad. But like a responsible diver nothing attached to me dangles. Everything I have is tucked inside or tightly attached to my BC so absolutely NOTHING hangs down. I'm sure many of you can't say that. Next time out check your gauges as they dangle behind or underneath and bumps into the coral. To me that is just a bad. I like boat dives, I like to go to sights I can't via shore diving. As most of you said education is important. And how many dives have you been on where you accidentally bumped the coral with your body, tank or fins. You know stuff happens and we all try to do the BEST we can to avoid contact.
|By DiveSergeant (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #9) on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 2:56 am:|
|By Travelducky (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #8) on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 - 3:40 pm:|
|By John Gerty (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #8) on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 4:17 pm:|
You tend to see the elaborate camera rigs on boat dives because hauling one along on a shore dive is difficult and cumbersome. These folks are too cheap to book a private dive tour.
|By Roger Smith (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #8) on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 12:42 am:|
RE: "...These folks are too cheap to book a private dive tour." Ha ha... that's a good one. Personally, the money saved by shore diving funds a couple of extra weeks on the island every year. The independence, flexibility, and underwater solitude are bonuses. If anything, I spend more money annually on Bonaire because I stay longer and partake in more activities.
|By Roger Smith (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #9) on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 1:04 am:|
Just re-read my post and wanted to clarify: I spend more money now, shore diving and staying longer, compared to what I spent during years where I did mostly boat diving.
|By John Gerty (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #9) on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 2:43 am:|
Roger, re-read my post.
|By JD (BonaireTalker - Post #95) on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 2:00 pm:|
When boat diving, I and the people I routinely dive with like to get in the water last, preferably after the crowd has drifted away a bit. We then stay way to the side or way back to avoid the teeming masses. I go slower than the speedsters anyway. I am in no hurry to get out of the water.
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