By John Mack (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #136) on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 10:11 pm: |
Well we wrapped up our 3rd trip to Bonaire (March 5th – 13th) and I thought it was about time I followed through and got my first trip report up. You'll have to excuse some irregularities in formatting, I thought I was going to be really savvy and it backfired on me a bit. At this point my patience has run out and I have the html looking acceptable (I know some of the lines are goofy). I have the report separated it into five sections which I hope is helpful to everyone. My wife Amanda and I were married on Bonaire three years ago so it is a very special place for us. I would be remiss if I didn’t give a special shout on to some people. We were happily surprised to find our friends from our wedding trip Colleen and Dan staying at Den Laman at the same time as us. We had met them during our wedding trip and actually looked at their room at Den Laman which played a big part in us making the switch from Buddy’s. It was also very nice to meet a good portion of the rest of their family (Tim, Brent, and Rebecca) who were all great people and nice enough to dive with us. I would also like to thank Bas Noij for his tips and for being generally a cool dude.
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By YucatanPat (Sand$ Condo) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #320) on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 12:22 am: |
John - honest personal trip reports are always the best read for me, thanks, and will try Salsa next trip, somehow never have been and we eat out for dinner most nights also.
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By Bas Noij (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #379) on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 1:39 am: |
Quality report John. Thanks for taking the time and of course for the kind words about me
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By NoGoSlo (BonaireTalker - Post #23) on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 11:32 am: |
We just returned from Den Laman and were also very disappointed with BDA. Very unhelpful as well. We did a few boat dives with them and they were very limited on the time of the dive.
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By Chris Reeves on island 05/02-05/09 (BonaireTalker - Post #59) on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 12:13 pm: |
Thanks for the trip report. Salsa is now upgraded to a "must try" on my dining list!
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By roy storey (BonaireTalker - Post #33) on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 8:01 pm: |
We went out to Klein on I think it would be the North end, our divemaster Geertje from Divi dive checked the current prior to the start of the dive and decided it was to strong, good call on her part, I am divemaster certified and would think the current was around one to one and a half knots. Given the level of ability of some of the divers on board it could have been a major issue if they tried to dive in those conditions. Divi has in my humble opinion some of the best dive staff on the island, Geertje and Louis at the top of the list. Glad to see everyone survived.
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By bob fraser (BonaireTalker - Post #45) on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 9:26 am: |
Roy,
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By David Ingram (BonaireTalker - Post #31) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:12 pm: |
I have also stayed at Den Laman and agree with the poor service of BD&A.
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By *****Patrick with sharks on Bonaire***** (Supreme BonaireTalker - Post #3835) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 1:05 pm: |
Ditto on what David said...............
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By silvia taurer (BonaireTalker - Post #50) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 1:07 pm: |
hello John,
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By Lizard0924 (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #318) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 1:16 pm: |
Oh Silvia....LOL about your comment "it is sometimes not easy to work with the owner".....
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By David Ingram (BonaireTalker - Post #32) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 1:33 pm: |
Just a couple of items.
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By silvia taurer (BonaireTalker - Post #51) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 1:57 pm: |
hey David,
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By Jennifer V. (BonaireTalker - Post #25) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:17 pm: |
Stayed at Den Laman 2/14-2/21 and used BDA.
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By David Ingram (BonaireTalker - Post #33) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:15 pm: |
Andre did our orientation
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By Geoff Goodwin (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #109) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:48 pm: |
I've made three trips to Bonaire and used BDA and stayed with Sand Dollar every time. I've never had an issue really. Couple little things taken from the truck at night. (Our fault, should not have left it there, knew better).
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By John Mack (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #140) on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 11:00 pm: |
Our orientation was less than a half hour and I was happy with it. The woman who conducted it asked in the beginning how many times all of us had been to Bonaire (3 for everyone there) so she may have given us the short version. Covered the essentials.
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By DiveWarm (BonaireTalker - Post #71) on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 9:29 am: |
We stayed at Den Laman for 2 weeks last summer (and are returning for 2 weeks this summer) and had a similar experience as Jennifer V.
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By NoGoSlo (BonaireTalker - Post #24) on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 11:49 am: |
I pretty much agree with most of the posters here. You experience may vary.
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By WuWeiProf * (BonaireTalker - Post #51) on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 1:15 pm: |
We've had similar experiences at BDA with the office staff - they can be incredibly brusque, almost to the point of seeming indifferent. As to the DM's, our Christmas visit was marked by many less-than-involved DM experiences on the boat dives. This most recent visit, we only did one boat dive (with Peggy and Jerry Ligon) and we very pleased - as we had been when they were on the boats in December.
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By Colleen & Dan Kabat (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #5) on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 2:29 pm: |
Hey John! I absolutely loved your trip report! Not just because we were all mentioned in it (ha!ha!), but because it brought back the great memories of spending time with you & Amanda in Bonaire...Let's stay in contact & book trips that coincide with each other's plans next year. We hope to stay 2 or 3 weeks next time and it would truly make it more special if you guys were there to dive with us! Colleen
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By John Mack (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #141) on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 11:22 am: |
Thanks Colleen. That sounds like a plan for next year. We have already decided it will be two weeks minimum. Probably going to take the Continental red eye but we will look at some other options. We met a couple from Fargo who really liked flying Insel out of SJ but that still means you have to fly AA at some point.
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By Kevin (BonaireTalker - Post #36) on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 11:41 am: |
Cheers for the trip report.
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By DIVER DEBBI (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #598) on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 12:31 pm: |
that's weird..find office staff @BDA to be the most friendly and helpfull...on first name basis, and we only shore dive, but received a short orientation by knowledgable divemaster when we explained we were repeat customers...all questions always answered on the dock ..hey that rinse water is always an issue where ever you go..people put their sandy booties and suits in there with no regard..they do need to address the issue of not enough pegs in the gear room, I refused to double up on a single peg and just kept finding an empty one..worked out fine....guess everyone has a different expectation of service, just like restaurants..but BDA gets our business every year
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By Evan (BonaireTalker - Post #22) on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 2:17 pm: |
I never posted any comments about BDA from our trip last summer (June 27 or so, for 2 wks) -- I never did any trip report, at all, but I can corroborate these negative experiences.
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By Evan (BonaireTalker - Post #23) on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 2:37 pm: |
I gotta' add that the main reason for choosing Sand$ is that they have screens on the windows.
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By Jerry (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #16121) on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 2:42 pm: |
Evan, I hope you enjoyed something?
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By silvia taurer (BonaireTalker - Post #55) on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 3:00 pm: |
LOL Jerry......
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By Evan (BonaireTalker - Post #24) on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 4:08 pm: |
Jerry:
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By Jerry (BonaireTalk Deity - Post #16127) on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 9:51 am: |
Evan, welcome to the club!
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By DiveWarm (BonaireTalker - Post #75) on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 3:05 pm: |
I have to agree that the gear room thing at BDA is pretty bad. We were assigned one peg for the two of us, which wasn't that big of a deal for just hanging our BCs, but there was no where to put booties or fins, so they wound up on the floor under someone else's peg. There also was often a shortage of hangers for wetsuits, which was kind of a pain.
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By Colleen & Dan Kabat (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #6) on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 3:45 pm: |
Hey Dive Warm, I agree with you that DenLaman should have built lockers for guests' gear. That would be awesome...in the mean time, we really tried not to drip water on the steps of DM this year and brought our mesh Stahl sacks with us to haul our gear upstairs. They have dry bags, so we always had a chammy towel in them. Here's the magic tip for all who are concerned with the quality of BDA's rinse tanks - when you get on the island, stop at the little Chinese store on the east side of the town and buy a $7 plastic tub. We would keep it in the bathroom for soaking our wetsuits (brought our own Sink the Stink), etc., and would drain them in the shower, drag bucket & all to the balcony, and would hang our gear to dry. With the wind in Bonaire, it dries quickly. I know it looks tacky to have stuff hanging all over the railings, but maybe some drying racks could be furnished??? Anyway, when it's time to leave, we just give the tub to the maid with all of our leftovers (food, dish soap, etc.). Recycling at its best!
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By John Mack (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #142) on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 9:36 pm: |
I did notice plastic tubs for transporting gear in the trucks of a few people and they look like a good idea.
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By Colleen & Dan Kabat (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #7) on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:00 pm: |
Hey, John, I agree about the cameras! We flooded 2 of ours on The Cliff...also, I really DO hate hauling all my gear up those steps! I'm not getting any younger and that staircase isn't getting any easier!! Ha!Ha! Colleen
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By John Mack (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #143) on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 11:45 pm: |
Just fake a back injury like Amanda and have Dan carry everything larger than a camera all week!
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By Colleen & Dan Kabat (New BonaireTalk Poster - Post #8) on Monday, March 30, 2009 - 10:05 am: |
Great idea! I'll do it!!!!
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